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Posts by KPX

1) Message boards : Wish List : Low credit for such a risky project (Message 111378)
Posted 21 Nov 2011 by Profile KPX
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@ KPX : You're the victim of your own assumptions and contradictions - I suggest that you re-read yourself and reflect.
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No need to do so. I know what I write. You don't seem to.
BOINC I do for fun. You spoil it, for no reason. That's silly. You have fun doing that?
2) Message boards : Wish List : Low credit for such a risky project (Message 111377)
Posted 21 Nov 2011 by Profile KPX
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FWIW, my view is that stats are exported they are free to be used by anyone. Doesn't take much effort to look in the stats directory and see if there are any up to date tables in there; If there are, use them :)


You come into a shop, and find a penny on the floor. You silently put that in your pocket, claiming it yours. Next day you come into the same shop and find another penny. Again, you put it in your pocket. And so the next day. And the next. And so forth for a month. Then comes a day where you don't find a penny. What do you do? Sue the owner of the shop?

BM

Except that you are the one taking the pennies!!! LOL
3) Message boards : Wish List : Low credit for such a risky project (Message 111367)
Posted 21 Nov 2011 by Profile KPX
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@ KPX :

Just a complete disregard for crunchers ....


No. You've received the inevitable answer given the plainly stated context here, and you're upset because I stated the obvious that you evidently haven't picked up on yet.

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You fail to realize an important fact. BOINC crunchers have valid expectations of new projects.

BOINC was setup to draw volunteers to donate time and money to interesting scientific projects, in exchange for nothing more than the fun of collecting credits. That is the unwritten contract between projects and crunchers. Projects "promise" to do interesting non-commercial (mostly) science and behave fairly in giving fair credit, and crunchers "promise" to donate time on their HW and help the project developers with feedback on the forums.
This is a "contract" that was validated by most crunchers' experience on most projects. And that was the expectation here at Albert@home as well.

Regarding your contributions here, Mike, there is nothing polite in them, not your tone, and not the content. You have not stated the obvious, you have stated the unexpected. Yours is not even disregard, it's a plain contempt... and a blatant breach of the above mentioned "contract". Well, I just hope the projects that treat crunchers fairly remain in majority.


4) Message boards : Wish List : Low credit for such a risky project (Message 111340)
Posted 21 Nov 2011 by Profile KPX
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Cheers, Mike.


Mike,
there are no cheers anywhere in your message. Just a complete disregard for crunchers.
Sorry that I even asked anything in my first message of this thread. So just let it run as it was... as TRuEQ says, at least let's have the stats export running.
Cheers to all the projects that give credit and export stats, as that is the only reward we get for burning electricity and buying expensive hardware to help project owners crunch their stuff, be it science or crap (that we cannot influence).
KPX
5) Message boards : Wish List : Low credit for such a risky project (Message 111320)
Posted 19 Nov 2011 by Profile KPX
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Hm. Credit is the only currency we crunchers get for crunching. Strange that you feel giving credit would cost you something... All u get for credit is more crunchers. Is that bad for this project?
And why not to export stats? All projects test stuff from time to time. So what if servers need to be reset, units canceled, etc., it can happen in other projects as well. I crunch many alpha and beta projects. And they still try to treat crunchers somewhat normally...
But from your post I'm getting the feeling that discussion is not appropriate here, perhaps even asking questions like this. Well, couldn't help it. If things don't feel right, they don't feel right.
Otherwise, good luck in testing and developing the project. And this I mean sincerely.
6) Message boards : Wish List : Low credit for such a risky project (Message 111318)
Posted 19 Nov 2011 by Profile KPX
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Just 500 credit for 20+ hours of crunching is not much, given the risks associated with these units, with testing where, as you say, "Don't expect ANYTHING to work here". Perhaps we deserve a bonus for crunching for such an uncertain project, wouldn't you think?
7) Message boards : Problems and Bug Reports : negative FLOPs left -1.#IND00 (Message 111213)
Posted 6 Nov 2011 by Profile KPX
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Crashes mine as well. Same thing.






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