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Message 112653 - Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 12:14:38 UTC - in response to Message 112651.  
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Thanks for testing!


@ HBE: What you posted some time ago regarding app_info and cc_config , is this still required or was this for testing only?

Edit: might be a little bit tricky because all GPU's have nr. 0 now ...


The BOINC server side code is not yet updated to have the INTEL GPU code in it, and therefore there is no app version installed on the server for Intel GPUs, so yes, those files are still required on the client side.

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Message 112654 - Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 14:53:57 UTC - in response to Message 112651.  

I did a little more investigation.
Intel drivers have been in wrong directories, most likely caused by automatic installation from windows.

So I thought Intel might be a good source for getting the correct drivers.

Edit: might be a little bit tricky because all GPU's have nr. 0 now ...


Drivers installed via Windows Update almost never have the extra parts required for OpenCL, CUDA or what not. It's always recommended to get the drivers from Intel, Nvidia or AMD directly.

No problem with the GPU nr. being 0. Both my 660Ti and the HD 4000 is nr. 0 and it still works.
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Message 112655 - Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 17:52:55 UTC - in response to Message 112651.  

The messages now show
25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | Local time is UTC +2 hours
25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | VirtualBox version: 4.2.12
25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 2048MB, 2008MB available, 7488 GFLOPS peak)
25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | CAL: ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 5800/5900 series (Cypress/Hemlock) (CAL version 1.4.1741, 1024MB, 991MB available, 4368 GFLOPS peak)
25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (driver version 1214.3 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3), 2048MB, 2008MB available, 7488 GFLOPS peak)
25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970 series (Tahiti) (driver version 1214.3 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1214.3), 2048MB, 2008MB available, 7488 GFLOPS peak)
25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | OpenCL: Intel GPU 0: Intel(R) HD Graphics 2500 (driver version 9.18.10.3165, device version OpenCL 1.2, 1624MB, 1624MB available, 17 GFLOPS peak)
25.06.2013 13:30:22 | | No NVIDIA library found

Don't worry about different devices being Device 0, they will show up as CAL device 0, 1, 2, etc, or Cuda device 0, 1, 2, etc, or as OpenCL device 0, 1, 2 etc for a particular vendors platform, ie, AMD APP, Nvidia CUDA or Intel,
What you shouldn't have is two devices for the AMD APP platform with the same device number, What does CLinfo show? is that right, does Boinc run OpenCL apps on the right AMD GPU, or only on device 0?

I'd be very tempted to go down a few driver versions checking if the devices are displayed properly (fully cleaning out the drivers with the AMD Catalyst Un-install Utility each time) and recheck operation.

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Message 112656 - Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 19:27:51 UTC - in response to Message 112655.  


Don't worry about different devices being Device 0, they will show up as CAL device 0, 1, 2, etc, or Cuda device 0, 1, 2, etc, or as OpenCL device 0, 1, 2 etc for a particular vendors platform, ie, AMD APP, Nvidia CUDA or Intel,
What you shouldn't have is two devices for the AMD APP platform with the same device number, What does CLinfo show? is that right, does Boinc run OpenCL apps on the right AMD GPU, or only on device 0?

I'd be very tempted to go down a few driver versions checking if the devices are displayed properly (fully cleaning out the drivers with the AMD Catalyst Un-install Utility each time) and recheck operation.

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ATM I have some ati-wu's in queue, will wait until they are finished. Running on device 0 and device 1. Having gpu-z open twice, both gpu's show a usage of 75% or more. So it's possibly more a ui-problem than a device handling problem.

since clinfo is quite long I post a link.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50246791/clinfo1.txt

I'm using beta-drivers for amd (13.6 beta; 13.5 beta 2 was last clean install).

BTW: when googling for intel driver url's I found this: (sorry, german)
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-Hardware-154106/News/Open-CL-Intel-Treiber-AMD-Prozessor-1068152/
Maybe it's nonsense, but maybe it helps making some apps a little bit faster.


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Message 112657 - Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 21:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 112656.  

since clinfo is quite long I post a link.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50246791/clinfo1.txt

There is text missing from the beginning, if you do from cmd prompt: clinfo >Output.txt you will get all the text outputed into the Output.txt file.

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Message 112658 - Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 21:56:08 UTC - in response to Message 112657.  


There is text missing from the beginning, if you do from cmd prompt: clinfo >Output.txt you will get all the text outputed into the Output.txt file.

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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50246791/clinfo2.txt

Is complete now. Windows Power Shell did it.

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Message 112659 - Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 23:11:51 UTC - in response to Message 112658.  

I've reported the Boinc 7.1.17 AMD device reporting problem to the Boinc Alpha list.

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Message 112660 - Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 0:46:50 UTC
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I rearranged my systems a bit because the gpu's are needed somwhere else, will get them back during the weekend. Is a non-amd system for the moment.

I followed the instructions given earlier and had the app running as 'Lokal'. Finished in a little bit more than 27 min. GPU usage ~98%, temp @ 38° (oversized cooler). Intel i3 3220 @ 3.3GHz Intel HD2500 BM 7.1.17 win7-64 GPU core clock 1050 MHz, GPU mem clock 666.7 MHz Mem usage dedicated 8MB, mem usage dynamic ~400MB GPU power reported as 2.9 W (GPU-Z 0.7.2)


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50246791/first%20albert-intel-opencl.PNG

one can follow the progress here: http://albert.phys.uwm.edu/results.php?hostid=6571

Will it help to keep that running? Requesting new wu's needs babysitting, stays dry for long periods.
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Message 112661 - Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 14:41:21 UTC - in response to Message 112659.  

I've reported the Boinc 7.1.17 AMD device reporting problem to the Boinc Alpha list.

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THX; I'm in contact with Charlie Fenton now.
One can follow here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8140&postid=49733#49733
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Message 112663 - Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 14:30:33 UTC - in response to Message 112661.  


THX; I'm in contact with Charlie Fenton now.


Problem solved.
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Message 112673 - Posted: 7 Jul 2013, 3:05:20 UTC
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Here are results from my i7-3770S, no OC of the CPU or GPU. It has no additional discrete GPU. This is with BOINC showing 1CPU+1GPU.

With 1 additional thread reserved, 708 seconds, GPU load 96% flat:
https://albert.phys.uwm.edu/result.php?resultid=988045

With no additional thread reserved, 729 seconds, GPU load was a slightly wobbly ~93%:
https://albert.phys.uwm.edu/result.php?resultid=988042


It looks like reserving a thread helps a small bit. And that is odd, because according to task monitor, the task is using only about 5% of a thread (against a full thread reservation by BOINC). So that should mean it has 95% of a thread unused already, so why would manually reserving an additional thread improve anything?

Can't wait for the servers to be upgraded to have an intel check box!

FWIW, I have a couple boxes with both a nvidia discrete GPU + an intel HD 4000, crunching on both, with no monitors connected to either.
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Message 112674 - Posted: 7 Jul 2013, 4:22:12 UTC

Update: I think that one task at 709 seconds was an anomaly. All the rest have been 720-730 seconds, regardless of reserving an additional thread.
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Message 112682 - Posted: 9 Jul 2013, 9:18:18 UTC

We released a BRP4 app version for Intel HD GPUs over at Einstein.

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Message 112683 - Posted: 9 Jul 2013, 11:33:59 UTC - in response to Message 112682.  

We released a BRP4 app version for Intel HD GPUs over at Einstein.

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THX,

running a nice mix now.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50246791/nice%20mix%201.PNG

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Message 112684 - Posted: 9 Jul 2013, 11:47:34 UTC

@ BM:
The settings needs rework; there is no tab to enable Intel-gpu like it is for AMD and nVidia and the GPU utilization factor of BRP apps has no effect.
GPU-Z says gpu usage between 86 and 98%, Mem usage dedicated 6MB, Mem usage dynamic 375MB. There is headroom left ...

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Message 112685 - Posted: 9 Jul 2013, 20:32:25 UTC - in response to Message 112682.  

That's great news!

As there's been no announcement of the release on the Einstein boards I'll give some feedback here instead.

I've run some tasks on my HD4000 over at Einstein and so far all looks good, 3 have validated. Link to the host

The only small problem is that the task are sent with instructions to use 0.5CPU+1GPU, this has the effect on my system that the GPU load as per GPU-Z is less than 20%. If I free one core by setting my prefs to use 87.5% of the CPUs then the GPU load goes up to about 85-90%.
For now I'm running with an app_config.xml and using 0.5CPU+0.5GPU to run x2 thus reserving one core when there is task available, GPU load is 90-95%.
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Message 112686 - Posted: 9 Jul 2013, 22:22:17 UTC - in response to Message 112684.  
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@ BM:
The settings needs rework; there is no tab to enable Intel-gpu like it is for AMD and nVidia and the GPU utilization factor of BRP apps has no effect.
GPU-Z says gpu usage between 86 and 98%, Mem usage dedicated 6MB, Mem usage dynamic 375MB. There is headroom left ...

Cheers

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+1

Not sure why, but it is clear that updating the server to know intel GPU, does not also add the preferences selector. This happened at both SETI Beta and Collatz. So then the admin has to make a second change. Annoying for everybody.

Edit: I forgot to say thanks..... THANKS!

Edit 2: Hmm. Something seems wrong. Can't get work (on einstein):

79164 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:47 PM update requested by user
79165 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:51 PM [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
79166 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:51 PM Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
79167 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:51 PM Requesting new tasks for intel_gpu
79168 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:51 PM [sched_op] CPU work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
79169 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:51 PM [sched_op] intel_gpu work request: 108000.00 seconds; 1.00 devices
79170 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:53 PM Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
79171 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:53 PM [sched_op] Server version 611
79172 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:53 PM No work sent
79173 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:53 PM Project has no jobs available
79174 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:53 PM Project requested delay of 60 seconds
79175 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:53 PM [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:01:00
79176 Einstein@Home 7/9/2013 3:49:53 PM [sched_op] Reason: requested by project

I have intel GPU selected (and nothing else), and I have all 4 apps selected. According to the server status, all the queues are full of tasks ready to send.
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Message 112687 - Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 5:55:22 UTC - in response to Message 112684.  

@ BM:
The settings needs rework; there is no tab to enable Intel-gpu like it is for AMD and nVidia and the GPU utilization factor of BRP apps has no effect.


Setting to disable INTEL GPU was added last night.

I honestly don't expect anyone to stress these poor little Intel GPUs with more than one task at a time, so the "GPU utilization factor" was disabled there on purpose.

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Message 112688 - Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 5:57:24 UTC - in response to Message 112686.  

Edit 2: Hmm. Something seems wrong. Can't get work (on einstein):


What does the scheduler log say? Can you give me a hostid that I can look up?

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Message 112689 - Posted: 10 Jul 2013, 6:01:19 UTC
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In general, sorry for the somewhat rushed issuing of the Intel GPUs on Einstein. We needed a bit more computing power to help the CPUs crunching through the new Arecibo data, so we decided to just have a try with the Intel GPUs, as the damage, if any, would be very limited.

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